June 1854
Deseret News. "Conference Minutes." July 6, 1854: 32.
Grant, Jedediah M. "Apostasy, &c." Journal of Discourses. Volume 6. June 28, 1854: pg. 253-254. Conference Minutes President Brigham Young 2 p.m. Elder John Taylor June 28—10 a.m. President Heber C. Kimball Mission Calls New Patriarch Called President Jedediah M. Grant Apostasy, &c. 2 p.m. President Jedediah M. Grant Elder Lorenzo Snow President Brigham Young |
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[It wasn't mentioned in the report of the conference itself, but this conference was conducted as an exception, on the ten year anniversary of the martyrdom of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Hence the timing, the choice of speakers and choice of topic.]
Conference Minutes.
Tabernacle, June 27, 1854, 10 a.m.
Conference called to order by Prest. J. M. Grant.
Singing.
Prayer by E. T. Benson.
Singing.
Conference Minutes.
Tabernacle, June 27, 1854, 10 a.m.
Conference called to order by Prest. J. M. Grant.
Singing.
Prayer by E. T. Benson.
Singing.
Prest. Young
preached upon being an Apostle of Joseph Smith.
Choir sung, "Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah."
preached upon being an Apostle of Joseph Smith.
Choir sung, "Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah."
2 p.m.
Conference called to order by Prest. Young.--
Singing.
Prayer by O. Hyde.
Singing.
Conference called to order by Prest. Young.--
Singing.
Prayer by O. Hyde.
Singing.
Elder John Taylor
reviewed the scenes and transactions pertaining to the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith in Carthage jail, when under the pledged faith of Governor Ford of Illinois, that they should be protected.
A hymn composed by Bernard Snow, was sung.
Benediction by E. T. Benson.
reviewed the scenes and transactions pertaining to the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith in Carthage jail, when under the pledged faith of Governor Ford of Illinois, that they should be protected.
A hymn composed by Bernard Snow, was sung.
Benediction by E. T. Benson.
June 28—10 a.m.
Opened with singing.
Prayer.
Singing.
Opened with singing.
Prayer.
Singing.
Prest. Kimball
bore testimony of Joseph Smith's being a Prophet of God.
bore testimony of Joseph Smith's being a Prophet of God.
The following persons were appointed to go on missions, viz:
Elder John Taylor to the City of New York, and Nathaniel H. Felt, Alexander Robbins, Jeter Clinton, Martin H. Peck, and Abel Lamb, to accompany him.
Elder John Young to the States. Lemon Brunson to Michigan. Preston Thomas and Enoch B. Tripp, to Texas. Edwin Whiting to Ohio.—James Craig to Ireland.
Elder John Taylor to the City of New York, and Nathaniel H. Felt, Alexander Robbins, Jeter Clinton, Martin H. Peck, and Abel Lamb, to accompany him.
Elder John Young to the States. Lemon Brunson to Michigan. Preston Thomas and Enoch B. Tripp, to Texas. Edwin Whiting to Ohio.—James Craig to Ireland.
John Smith, the oldest son of Hyrum Smith, was voted to be ordained the Patriarch over the whole Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Prest. J. M. Grant
bore his testimony of Joseph, and of his acquaintance with Hyrum's son John.
Apostasy, &c
Remarks by President Jedediah M. Grant, Delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, June 28, 1854.
Reported by Unknown.
I am pleased that this Conference convened upon the 27th, for it is a date written indelibly upon our memories.
We have been blessed in hearing the testimonies which have been borne by Presidents Young and Kimball, and Elder Taylor. I think the majority of this congregation, though they might not be able to bear as strong a testimony as those who have spoken, can bear testimony that the Lord our God, by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, has revealed to them that Joseph Smith, while he lived, was a Prophet of God, inspired by the revelations of the Almighty to unfold the eternal truths of heaven to a perishing world.
I believe that the feelings of this people respond to the testimony that has been borne today; and if we should wait here for all this people to express their feelings in relation to their confidence in Joseph Smith as a messenger of heaven, and in the revelations of God through him, we should have to wait many years.
There are some things we know by seeing, and other things we know by hearing, tasting, smelling, &c.; but the light of the Eternal Spirit that brought us out of darkness into the Church of God is the great abiding testimony of this people.
Indeed, men have apostatized after they have seen and heard Joseph, after they have seen angels, after they have seen the sick healed, and after they have spoken in tongues and prophesied, and had the interpretation of tongues. You will recollect that long since I gave you my advice in relation to the proper time a man ought to apostatize. My advice was that he should never apostatize in a dark and cloudy day—never when he felt bad—never because he felt hard towards his brother or brethren in the Church; but when he apostatizes, he should wait for a clear day, when everything around him is prospering; and then, before he apostatizes, he should ask counsel.
In relation to men's apostatizing, I recollect in the upper room of the Temple in Kirtland, Ohio, when we were assembled there, a very noted man, by the name of Sylvester Smith, bore testimony of what he had seen of the Prophet of God, of angels, &c. He said he wanted to bear testimony, and continued to say, “I have spoken by what you call the Holy Ghost; the eyes of my understanding have been touched, and I have seen convoy after convoy of angels; I have laid hands on the lame, and they have leaped like an hart; I have spoken with tongues and had the interpretation thereof; I have seen the sick healed time after time—but let me tell you, everything I have seen and everything you have seen is the height of idiotism.” This was Sylvester Smith, after he apostatized.
This was the testimony of an apostate, which is conclusive proof to me that a man may see the hosts of heaven—the chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof, and gaze on the glory of God, and be filled with the Holy Ghost; and unless he retains the Spirit of God, he will apostatize. Therefore my advice to the Saints has been, and is, and whenever I give you good advice in the future, it will be the same, that you propose in your hearts never to depart from God or from his people, only when you are filled with the Holy Ghost; and then when you do it, ask counsel of his servants.
I felt glad when Brother Brigham nominated John Smith, the son of Hyrum, to be our Patriarch. I have been acquainted with his father personally. I have lived with him for years, and I know the spirit that is in his son; and I know the Lord God has promised to bless his children, and that his Spirit will rest upon his son, to unfold and teach the eternal truths of heaven to bless the people of God.
I would rather have a young man to fill this office than an old man who is filled with the leaven of sectarianism. Give me a man who was raised by a “Mormon” father and a “Mormon” mother, and raised up in the faith from his childhood. That is the man I want to bless me and the people of God.
The Programme for the 4th of July was read by Thos. Bullock. Chanting by the Choir. Benediction by J. M. Grant.
bore his testimony of Joseph, and of his acquaintance with Hyrum's son John.
Apostasy, &c
Remarks by President Jedediah M. Grant, Delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, June 28, 1854.
Reported by Unknown.
I am pleased that this Conference convened upon the 27th, for it is a date written indelibly upon our memories.
We have been blessed in hearing the testimonies which have been borne by Presidents Young and Kimball, and Elder Taylor. I think the majority of this congregation, though they might not be able to bear as strong a testimony as those who have spoken, can bear testimony that the Lord our God, by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, has revealed to them that Joseph Smith, while he lived, was a Prophet of God, inspired by the revelations of the Almighty to unfold the eternal truths of heaven to a perishing world.
I believe that the feelings of this people respond to the testimony that has been borne today; and if we should wait here for all this people to express their feelings in relation to their confidence in Joseph Smith as a messenger of heaven, and in the revelations of God through him, we should have to wait many years.
There are some things we know by seeing, and other things we know by hearing, tasting, smelling, &c.; but the light of the Eternal Spirit that brought us out of darkness into the Church of God is the great abiding testimony of this people.
Indeed, men have apostatized after they have seen and heard Joseph, after they have seen angels, after they have seen the sick healed, and after they have spoken in tongues and prophesied, and had the interpretation of tongues. You will recollect that long since I gave you my advice in relation to the proper time a man ought to apostatize. My advice was that he should never apostatize in a dark and cloudy day—never when he felt bad—never because he felt hard towards his brother or brethren in the Church; but when he apostatizes, he should wait for a clear day, when everything around him is prospering; and then, before he apostatizes, he should ask counsel.
In relation to men's apostatizing, I recollect in the upper room of the Temple in Kirtland, Ohio, when we were assembled there, a very noted man, by the name of Sylvester Smith, bore testimony of what he had seen of the Prophet of God, of angels, &c. He said he wanted to bear testimony, and continued to say, “I have spoken by what you call the Holy Ghost; the eyes of my understanding have been touched, and I have seen convoy after convoy of angels; I have laid hands on the lame, and they have leaped like an hart; I have spoken with tongues and had the interpretation thereof; I have seen the sick healed time after time—but let me tell you, everything I have seen and everything you have seen is the height of idiotism.” This was Sylvester Smith, after he apostatized.
This was the testimony of an apostate, which is conclusive proof to me that a man may see the hosts of heaven—the chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof, and gaze on the glory of God, and be filled with the Holy Ghost; and unless he retains the Spirit of God, he will apostatize. Therefore my advice to the Saints has been, and is, and whenever I give you good advice in the future, it will be the same, that you propose in your hearts never to depart from God or from his people, only when you are filled with the Holy Ghost; and then when you do it, ask counsel of his servants.
I felt glad when Brother Brigham nominated John Smith, the son of Hyrum, to be our Patriarch. I have been acquainted with his father personally. I have lived with him for years, and I know the spirit that is in his son; and I know the Lord God has promised to bless his children, and that his Spirit will rest upon his son, to unfold and teach the eternal truths of heaven to bless the people of God.
I would rather have a young man to fill this office than an old man who is filled with the leaven of sectarianism. Give me a man who was raised by a “Mormon” father and a “Mormon” mother, and raised up in the faith from his childhood. That is the man I want to bless me and the people of God.
The Programme for the 4th of July was read by Thos. Bullock. Chanting by the Choir. Benediction by J. M. Grant.
2 p.m.
Opened with singing. Prayer. Singing.
Opened with singing. Prayer. Singing.
Prest. J. M. Grant and Elder Lorenzo Snow bore testimony of Joseph being a Prophet, and spoke on that subject.
George Windows was voted to take a mission to England.
George Windows was voted to take a mission to England.
Prest. Young
requested the Bishops to furnish lumber &c., to build a bowery, so as to accommodate ten or twelve thousand persons, comfortably.
Chanting by the Choir, "Judge me O Lord and I will give thanks unto thee."
Benediction by Prest. Young.
THOMAS BULLOCK
Clerk of Conference.
Geo. D. Watt, Reporter.
requested the Bishops to furnish lumber &c., to build a bowery, so as to accommodate ten or twelve thousand persons, comfortably.
Chanting by the Choir, "Judge me O Lord and I will give thanks unto thee."
Benediction by Prest. Young.
THOMAS BULLOCK
Clerk of Conference.
Geo. D. Watt, Reporter.